Friday, September 28, 2012

Suit Up

Question: How do you propose a Scion that comes from a culture that doesn’t use much armor (or any at all) use the War 7 Boon Colossus Armor?

This is really a question of stunting and flavor, but those things are at the heart of the game, so it's a good one anyway. Colossus Armor is indeed much easier to envision for cultures that have easily recognizable armor fashions, like the Japanese samurai or the Roman centurions, than it is for folks like the Gauls, who generally ran into battle screaming and mostly naked.

Let's ignore, for a moment, what Colossus Armor's mechanics actually do; it makes you very large, very strong and very sturdy, but that's going to happen no matter what form it takes, so it's not really relevant to trying to figure out what the armor itself looks like for individual Scions. To begin with, there are very few cultures that had no armor whatsoever, so start with a little research; since the mechanics don't really depend on the kind of armor here (because this is a War boon and you are a War god, so people saying "but your armor doesn't cover your knees!" are not really making a valid point), armor that doesn't fit the Giant Suit of Armor idea is still perfectly acceptable. A Scion of the Aztlanti might suddenly appear in a massive ichcahuipilli regardless of the fact that it only covers the chest without taking any penalties from what is clearly a culture-appropriate stunting of a power.

If you've got absolutely no armor options (Gauls and African warriors have a particularly hard time with this), then consider stunting more creative ways of armoring yourself. A Gaulish warrior, for example, might appear covered in giant swaths of woad war-paint, which would not in the regular world confer any armored protection but which should work just fine for a Gaulish war-god activating his Colossus Armor. If there's nothing cultural to go on, some Scions may have to fall back on imagery that's more tailored to their personality or other powers - an African death god might become covered in the bones of her deceased ancestors, for example, or an Australian earth-god might appear with the dust and stone of his native land forming impenetrable armor to fit him.

While it's easy to get bogged down in the idea that this has to be a full, enormous suit of armor (particularly with that picture in the Scion book of the giant centurion suit), there's really no reason that should be so, any more than every Scion should have to stunt their Warrior Ideal or Dreadful Mien or Mystery exactly the same based on their culture of origin. It's absolutely a great idea for those players who love that culture's war-gear aesthetics and want to be part of them, but if a Scion doesn't have an appropriate source in their home culture, or even just wants to reinterpret themselves a little differently, there's no reason that they can't if they're not infringing on another culture's imagery. Colossus Armor's effects don't vary with the armor's appearance, so players should feel free to stunt whatever's most mythically badass and makes the most sense for their character.

11 comments:

  1. Gallic scions shouldn't find it too difficult to come up with appropriate armor. The Gauls had quite a reputation for crafting fine armor, so much so that the Romans were said to have adopted mail from the Gauls.

    That said, I can't think of many things more terrifying in combat than a giant Celt running around naked while hopped up on drugs, and the first one that comes to mind happens to be a bigger version of the same.

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    1. Hrmm....source? Not that I dont believe you, necessarily, but I'd like to read up on it. Because popular culture disagrees(but Im not a anthropologist), and it seems slightly illogical that such a northern, poorer people would have such an evolved grasp of blacksmithing.

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    2. Unfortunately, it's been years since I've read anything on the Gauls and I don't have convenient access to my university's library at the moment.

      I don't think most of the ancient sources are of much help, although Polybius might be an exception. The only thing that I can think of at the moment are some of the books from Osprey Publishing. They're not exactly scholarly works, but they do make for a decent introduction to the subject and usually get the general details right.

      Speaking of which, as I understand it, only the richest Gauls could afford mail or better, while the rest had to settle for less protective materials.

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  2. I guess the issue's always been circumvented for me because I always imagined the Colossus Armor as just being a giant, ultra-powered version of your Warrior Ideal.

    Or "Impact" from the Ganbare Goemon series.

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  3. Some stuff I dug up.

    The Celtic Warriors Armor
    Early La-Tene era Celtic warriors did not wear armor, although nobles occasionally wore chest plates and chainmail, a Celtic invention according to the Romans. Later leather armor, light bronze breast plates, chain shirts and scale armor were employed, although typically beyond the means of common warriors. A special form of armor the Celts developed was called Ceannlann armor. It is a layer of metal scales sewn onto linen which is in turn sown on to chain armor creating a very effective multilayer armor that could cover the entire body. Helmets were also uncommon at first and mostly worn by nobles. Important forms are the Montefortino Helmet and the Coolus helmet which the Romans imitated for their legionaries. Another style of helmet came from the Belgae, a Belgian Celtic tribe. Belgian helmets had a typical, cone-like form with a long, square and straight plate to protect the neck. Celtic warriors were known to fasten feathers, wings or horse tails to their helmets. Some helmets had real horns or metal horns attached in order to create a fearsome look.

    It may be true, it may not be. Celtic's were master craftsmen with iron and other metals. What the common soldier could not get, he could probably plunder from dead corpses and patch up to use. All I know is that there was some Armor that was made by the celts and many things made by the Celtic Nations were adopted and used by the Romans. But make your own opinion on that, lol.

    Source for now until maybe others.
    http://www.ancientmilitary.com/celtic-warriors.htm

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    1. Not sure about the horns tough. Maybe my research was a bit too germanic - scandinavian, but it seems that they would not wear these, being too impractical.

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    2. Such helmets might be ceremonial rather than practical. Although I recall hearing about actual winged helmets of Celtic origin being dug up not so long ago.

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  4. Roy (Previously Known as Jacob)September 29, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    Actually, when I wrote this question, I had Polynesian peoples in mind [specifically the Maori, whom, if I recall, did not wear armor, except for some light padding on the arms (the sources are not as reliable on this point)].

    But thank you for your discussion of Gaulish practices. I have recently begun STing a game and one of the players chose the Nemetondevos [the only pantheon for which I have no PDF support (at least not in English)]. Even though he isn't taking the War purview this was very helpful.

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    1. Glad to be a little helpful. :) Should have guessed it was you and your Maori Scion!

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    2. Roy (Previously Known as Jacob)September 29, 2012 at 11:24 PM

      He is a little stinker, isn't he?

      I suppose that the Maori would use their Moko in a similar manner to the Gaulish warrior's woad?

      Although he is taking on a more pan-Pacific flavor, what with running around with a Tachi and with an Inca wedding in the works.

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    3. Yeah, moko seems like a great place to go, considering the lack of other armor.

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