Question: Recently I've been trying to stat up Inari-no-okami for the Kami and I've run into a problem. The three associations needed for Legend 12 are easy (Animal (Fox), Magic and Fertility), but beyond that I'm having trouble distinguishing between things Inari itself does and things its kitsune messengers do, such as shapeshifting or power over fire and lightning. What do you think? Should Inari have Illusion, Fire or Sky, or do its kitsune have a wider variety of powers than it does?
Well, to start with, we agree: Animal (Fox), Fertility and Magic are totally in Inari's wheelhouse. Let's go from there!
First of all, because you bring it up a lot in your question obliquely, it's always worthwhile to talk about Inari's gender, because there is a whole ton of confusion and misinformation and interpretation that goes into how that particular deity is presented in Japanese mythology and whether or not it can be called male, female, or gender-fluid or changeable. English-language studies on Inari, especially older ones, tend to refer to the god as male most of the time; most likely this is because those writing those studies were European outsiders who were inclined to apply a fixed gender to all deities they studied, and who gravitated naturally toward males unless a god was specifically said to be female. Many - in fact most - of the other gods of Shinto are specific and unchanging in their gender, which is often a major part of their stories, but Inari is frequently referred to as either masculine or feminine, indeterminate, or capable of changing between those options at will. Inari's not one of the oldest gods of Shinto (our first confirmed dates are in the early eighth century), but old enough that modern, heavily Buddhist ideas of gender roles probably weren't strongly in effect yet. Inari's modern form is probably a composite figure composed of several different fertility deities, all of them originally separate local gods but later considered aspects of one - most notably, some scholars conflate Inari with Uke Mochi, although obviously we have her off on her own in Ourea as a Titan Avatar.
But anyway, Inari is a truly gender-fluid deity. Some Scions (and other gods, and mortals) might experience the god as male, others as female, others as having no idea one way or the other or seeing elements of both. Regardless of how your game represents Inari, though, you should probably never use "it" to refer to the god. That suggests no gender at all, which is not applicable here, and while some crusty old scholars use the word because English doesn't have good gender-fluid pronouns, in practice it's probably pretty insulting and Inari probably wouldn't appreciate it. Nobody likes being called by a word that implies they have more in common with objects than people; doing so to refer to a god will probably land you on a divine retribution list pretty quickly, especially if you do it to the god's face.
But, back to Inari's associations! Fire and lightning are tangential associations, even for kitsune; even foxfire isn't really fire but more of an optical illusion, so we wouldn't apply either to Inari. However, the god does do a lot of shapeshifting - in addition to appearing as various genders, Inari also turns up as various animals, monsters and even plants, suggesting that there's no confining the deity to a single shape for long. The eternal problem of how to handle shapeshifting in Scion rears its head again; Appearance probably isn't a great fit, since there aren't very many stories suggesting Inari is more visually crazy than other gods, so we would probably tentatively go with Illusion, since that's not only a kitsune feature but also one that Inari's myths often rely on. Inari also has several shrines dedicated to worshiping the god as a curer of disease and giver of children, which could point to Health, although that seems like an outgrowth of the general prosperity idea and we're not sure it's strong enough for a full association.
That leaves us without any firm Epic Attributes to assign to the god, and without more research than we have time for right now (alas, Japan is still not updated on our site!), we can't give you super firm recommendations. Inari is insanely popular, especially with modern businesses, so you might want to go with Charisma, which might also be supported by the god's association with performance and pleasure; Manipulation might be supported by the stories of Inari intentionally pulling capers and tricks in order to teach people lessons or enjoy their bewilderment. Wits is a general fox characteristic, so while we don't have any good support for it from stories, it might be a stopgap option if you need to take the god live for players before you have time to do a ton of work on it.
Kitsune, as a general magical race of creatures, are very common in folkloric stories and therefore do have an expanded powers thanks to the wide range of stories about them. But Inari is a little more specific and has tales that are all the god's own, so we wouldn't assume that the deity necessarily needs associations for everything the little messengers who serve the god might do.
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Question: What legend is Inari Ōkami, and what would his associates be? What about Uke Mochi?
I really think that in that bright and shining someday when we're out from under the oppressive yoke of these Titans we're working on, I want the Amatsukami to be our next project. (Okay, not next project because apparently all of you guys voted for sample Birthrights and Relics over on the right, but soon project, then.) They've needed a rewrite in the worst way for a long time, and due to our lack of current PCs there have gotten none of the fancy PSP rewriting, roster re-evaluating fun that most everyone else except the Shen have.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Inari is at least Legend 11 (I want to say Legend 12, but I can't recall any stories off the top of my head of him actually doing anything as opposed to just existing; as I said, the Japanese pantheon needs some thorough research and rework). He'd almost certainly have Animal (Fox) and Fertility associated, and I'm leaning toward Magic as a god of prosperity and good fortune as well. Along with Sarutahiko, he's one of the deities I'm planning on lobbying for inclusion in the ranks of Legend 12 gods once we get around to working with the Land of the Rising Sun.
As for Uke Mochi, I don't think she'd be a playable deity (there's the being sort of beyond interaction with humanity or even the gods most of the time, and the being dead), but I suspect that she may be destined for Titanhood (but you didn't hear it from me if it doesn't happen).
I really think that in that bright and shining someday when we're out from under the oppressive yoke of these Titans we're working on, I want the Amatsukami to be our next project. (Okay, not next project because apparently all of you guys voted for sample Birthrights and Relics over on the right, but soon project, then.) They've needed a rewrite in the worst way for a long time, and due to our lack of current PCs there have gotten none of the fancy PSP rewriting, roster re-evaluating fun that most everyone else except the Shen have.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Inari is at least Legend 11 (I want to say Legend 12, but I can't recall any stories off the top of my head of him actually doing anything as opposed to just existing; as I said, the Japanese pantheon needs some thorough research and rework). He'd almost certainly have Animal (Fox) and Fertility associated, and I'm leaning toward Magic as a god of prosperity and good fortune as well. Along with Sarutahiko, he's one of the deities I'm planning on lobbying for inclusion in the ranks of Legend 12 gods once we get around to working with the Land of the Rising Sun.
As for Uke Mochi, I don't think she'd be a playable deity (there's the being sort of beyond interaction with humanity or even the gods most of the time, and the being dead), but I suspect that she may be destined for Titanhood (but you didn't hear it from me if it doesn't happen).
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