It's another vlog day, and this week, it's all about the Norse. Let's hit it!
Question: How much bigger, physically, are the Aesir Gods than the non-Aesir Gods? How much bigger physically are non-Aesir Gods than normal humans? How much bigger physically CAN the non-Aesir gods get than normal humans?
Question: Is Odin as colossal of a jerk to his brothers as he is to... everyone who does not meet the criteria 'NOT being a dick to this person will help prevent Ragnarok'?
Question: Is it ever explained what happened to Vili and Ve? After the creation myth, they seem to disappear.
Question: Why will Baldur go to Hel when he dies? Shouldn't he end up in Valhalla (or at least in Folkvangr)? Isn't he everyone's favorite person ever?
Question: After looking up seidr & learning men were considered effeminate if they used it, I'm curious about how the Aesir view the three fate purviews and male scions who use them. I'd imagine Magic has a bit of a stigma but what about Mystery & Prophecy?
Question: What is the difference between Helheim and Niflheim. I have seen both being used as Hel's house.
Question: What happens when a Titan with Ultimate Stamina dies and comes back? Does the concept they represent return to normal?
Question: How do you handle the Norse goddess Idun? She's technically not either Aesir, Vanir or giant but as the daughter of Ivaldi, a dwarf or svartalfar. My personal take on it is that she short and childlike looking. Half because she's a dwarf and half because she's the goddess of youth.
Next time, we're going to talk about characters and PCs and fun stuff related to playing and running them. See you then!
Showing posts with label Idun. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Idun. Show all posts
Saturday, April 5, 2014
Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Black Sheep of the Family
Question: Do you think Loki is as dependant on Idun's apples as the rest of the Aesir? He was quick to give them up and also tasked with getting them back on his own (unless he was also just as aged as the rest of the Aesir).
I wouldn't read too much into Loki being "quick to give up" the apples. Loki's always quick to do things that prevent him from getting dead, and at the time he was being carried around by a giant eagle that was banging him into things and threatening him. It also wasn't Loki's idea to give Thjazi Idun and her apples; those were Thjazi's terms for letting him down without killing him. This is actually not one of Loki's occasional sourceless prankings but a case of him being blackmailed into these shenanigans (not that that's any better as far as the Norse are concerned, of course).
The question of whether or not Loki needs the apples is an interesting one; the answer really depends on whether or not you consider Loki to actually be Aesir. Scion certainly makes him as much a part of the pantheon as everyone else, sharing their Virtues, PSPs and problems, so if you decide he isn't Aesir enough to be part of the apple ritual, why is he Aesir enough to be part of the pantheon with the same PSP and Virtues as everyone else? Loki certainly often plays the role of outsider among the Aesir and is known to be half giant, but the Prose Edda specifically says that he is considered one of them, and certainly the Aesir are not generally averse to marrying and hanging out with giants on a pretty regular basis (not to mention that they descend from a dude created by Ymir in the first place). Add to that the fact that he's Odin's blood-brother and therefore has some of the highest status in Asgard despite the general dislike of his personality, and we can't see how you could accurately claim that Loki isn't Aesir. He may be the pain in the ass of the pantheon, but being a pain in the ass doesn't disqualify you from membership, or else all the trickster gods of the world would be homeless hobos (well, more than they are now, anyway).
So yes, we would assume that Loki is indeed one of the Aesir and that he needs the apples as much as everyone else; he probably would have preferred not to have to give them up and then go retrieve them, but sometimes it's better to survive and have to get a little old than to get killed by a giant to avoid giving up your eternal youth. Living tricksters can fix whatever mess they've created that everyone's pissed off at them for, but dead tricksters are just dead.
I wouldn't read too much into Loki being "quick to give up" the apples. Loki's always quick to do things that prevent him from getting dead, and at the time he was being carried around by a giant eagle that was banging him into things and threatening him. It also wasn't Loki's idea to give Thjazi Idun and her apples; those were Thjazi's terms for letting him down without killing him. This is actually not one of Loki's occasional sourceless prankings but a case of him being blackmailed into these shenanigans (not that that's any better as far as the Norse are concerned, of course).
The question of whether or not Loki needs the apples is an interesting one; the answer really depends on whether or not you consider Loki to actually be Aesir. Scion certainly makes him as much a part of the pantheon as everyone else, sharing their Virtues, PSPs and problems, so if you decide he isn't Aesir enough to be part of the apple ritual, why is he Aesir enough to be part of the pantheon with the same PSP and Virtues as everyone else? Loki certainly often plays the role of outsider among the Aesir and is known to be half giant, but the Prose Edda specifically says that he is considered one of them, and certainly the Aesir are not generally averse to marrying and hanging out with giants on a pretty regular basis (not to mention that they descend from a dude created by Ymir in the first place). Add to that the fact that he's Odin's blood-brother and therefore has some of the highest status in Asgard despite the general dislike of his personality, and we can't see how you could accurately claim that Loki isn't Aesir. He may be the pain in the ass of the pantheon, but being a pain in the ass doesn't disqualify you from membership, or else all the trickster gods of the world would be homeless hobos (well, more than they are now, anyway).
So yes, we would assume that Loki is indeed one of the Aesir and that he needs the apples as much as everyone else; he probably would have preferred not to have to give them up and then go retrieve them, but sometimes it's better to survive and have to get a little old than to get killed by a giant to avoid giving up your eternal youth. Living tricksters can fix whatever mess they've created that everyone's pissed off at them for, but dead tricksters are just dead.
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