Friday, May 10, 2013

Fast Cars

Question: Regarding the Chariot Boons: Can a Scion stunt them as something other than chariots? An Egyptian Scion especially seems more likely to use a solar barque, not a chariot. Or something decidedly more modern, like a lunar limo? Also, could Water have a n equivalent Water Chariot Boon?

Yes to the first part, no to the second!

Scions can absolutely use their Sun Chariot or Moon Chariot boons to create vehicles other than the classic two-wheeled contraptions! While the idea of the sun or moon god rolling across the sky in a vehicle of some kind is widespread in various mythologies, it's not always the classical Greco-Roman chariot. Gods like Resheph, Surya, Chandra, Helios, Selene, Apollo and Artemis use chariots, but Ra shepherds the sun on his solar barque, Belenos and the Dagda are most often shown with a giant solar wheel and Dagr and Nott directly ride the horses of day and night. Chariots are the most common form of solar and lunar transportation in Indo-European myth, but they're only the majority, not the rule, and a Scion who hails from another culture or simply wants her moon ride to be that much more awesome can decide on any appropriate vehicle she chooses.

It's worth noting that cultures outside of Europe do the sun-chariot thing much more rarely; Mesoamerican myths almost always involve a god directly carrying the sun on his back or arms while running across the sky, while Asian myths often claim the sun moves on its own, usually out of fear of a sun god who keeps it in line. These are also totally valid sun-god archetypes, but they're a little harder to make tick with the Sun Chariot boon; our advice is to let a Scion stunt whatever makes sense for them as long as they don't start bending the rules of what the boon can actually mechanically do, and don't ruin anyone's fun if they want to go against type a little by starting a new vehicular trend or being very creative about what a "vehicle" really constitutes.

Actually, of our major solar and lunar PC gods, neither has chosen to use the classical chariot. Sowiljr's vehicle of choice is a massive Viking longboat made of golden light, rocking grimacing bear-heads to ornament its prow, and Zwazo Fou Fou's lunar conveyance was a shimmering silvery fanboat straight from the bayous of his youth. We look forward to more celestial characters getting powerful enough to pimp their own rides; it's a fantastic place for a Scion to really customize his own image.

As for the possibility of some kind of Water Chariot, however, that answer is no. While solar and lunar chariots are a major theme that stretches across many mythologies, there's no corresponding proliferation of watery chariots in the same way. We could easily name ten to twenty solar or lunar gods rocking out some form of the chariot, but water vehicles are nowhere near as common, and furthermore the few that are out there aren't tied to a major concept in their purview the same way. Sun and Moon get chariots because the sun or moon god needing to physically carry the celestial lights across the sky is a major mythological theme; Water isn't doing anything similar, and instead has boons tailored to what it does and represents in various mythologies.

You may be thinking of Poseidon and the other Greek sea-deities, and they do indeed have badass chariots, but you should also remember that every god in Greek mythology has their own chariot, pretty much, and it's more likely that they're relic vehicles and status symbols than that every god has some weird custom boon for charioteering. Poseidon's just happens to be suited for the ocean because that's where he does most of his hanging out.

However, if you really want an awesome watery chariot and don't have any Birthrights points to spare, you could totally shape normal waves into the image of a chariot or other vehicle using Water Mastery or similar boons; as long as you keep it rolling around with you, you can get the effect of a water chariot with no need for an extra boon. Plus, you'll be able to unform and reshape it into anything you want with the wave of your hand - let's see the celestial gods try that!

12 comments:

  1. My character, Amira, the Egyptian Goddess of Secrets, Espionage and (someday) the Internet, actually has a Moon Chariot in the form of a giant crystal spider whose abdomen is the moon, who swings between the stars. No mechanical difference, but it fits with her concept of being a Goddess of all things web-like. It's good fun, even if it is -really- stretching the definition of 'vehicle'. Just thought i'd share 'cause i'm weird like that.

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    1. That sounds like the most awesome moon vehicle ever. Chicahua from our games wants to hang out with you.

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  2. Spot on; I was thinking of Poseidon when I asked the second part. Specifically I was watching a youtube vid of his boss fight in God of War 3. Thanks for clarifying the first part. I actually love the myths of Hrimfaxi and Skinfaxi, though I wonder how that version of the Celestial Chariots would carry multiple people. A little follow up question about buying Relic Vehicles: do I have to pay extra for the creatures drawing the chariot, or are they part of the package?

    Also, Congratulations on getting into Grad School Anne! You Rock!

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    1. You ride pillion and hug really, really tight, I imagine. :)

      No, you don't have to pay for creatures! If you want horses pulling your chariot, horses you get (or, if you're crazy and/or Hecate, dragons). They're part of the vehicle and show up with no extra cost or prompting. However, as part of the vehicle, they're confined to it, so the awesome charging bulls pulling your wagon can't attack anyone on your behalf or detach and go do something else that isn't part of the chariot.

      And thank you! I do rock.

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    2. Wait, back the train up, I totally answered a different question than the one you asked. Relic vehicles are different from Sun Chariot vehicles. Damn it, me.

      I'd say it depends on what you want them for. If you want them to be creatures who can run around and do stuff for you separate from the relic vehicle, then they need to be their own Birthright. If their only job is to pull the chariot and they don't do anything else, I'd be inclined to let them come with it if you so desired (especially since otherwise a relic vehicle's speed would be weirdly handicapped by the speed of whatever creature you got to pull it).

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    3. Freya's chariot-cats would probably be included in her chariot. That's all they do. But Thor's Goats, which he eats every day and can bring back to life, are probably low-rank Creatures since they do other stuff.

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    4. That is an excellent point. Thanks Source J :)

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  3. Instead of a Chariot, an aspiring Yazata sun god might want to have a giant sun bull to ride on. Don't know if it would be a vehicle or an animal birthright.

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    1. If it's legit a bull, an animal Birthright. But we'd also let you stunt your Sun Chariot to look like a bull as long as you understood that it couldn't do anything a normal Sun Chariot couldn't do. :)

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  4. Speaking of Relic Vehicles, how do those work? A character of mine is a Scion of Poseidon during the Conquest of Mexico early 16th century, and I wanted to give him a Relic Galleon but it was too complicated to figure out how it would work. :(

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    1. They work like normal vehicles, but assumably you're using your Relic Dots to add magical abilities to them. Like Never Needs Gas or Sails In The Air or Drives Across Water. Etc, etc. They're also super-durable and hard to destroy.

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    2. What he said! We have a couple examples of vehicles in our Reliquary on the downloads page, too, if you'd like to see how we tend to stat them.

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